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* In [[Azveltara Z]], [[Bob]] has yet to join Merci's crew. Therefore, we know that Azveltara Z predates [[The New Crew]].
 
* In [[Azveltara Z]], [[Bob]] has yet to join Merci's crew. Therefore, we know that Azveltara Z predates [[The New Crew]].
 
* In [[The Skeleton King]], an illusory messenger of [[Maelstrom]] says he's about to join a [[The New Crew|New Crew]], and some time after, [[Bopen]]'s crew runs into [[Virgo Sunsword]]'s ship with [[Merci]]'s crew in the hull of the ship and [[Phineas Barringster]] onboard, placing The Skeleton King as happening around the same time as The New Crew, beginning before it and ending after it.
 
* In [[The Skeleton King]], an illusory messenger of [[Maelstrom]] says he's about to join a [[The New Crew|New Crew]], and some time after, [[Bopen]]'s crew runs into [[Virgo Sunsword]]'s ship with [[Merci]]'s crew in the hull of the ship and [[Phineas Barringster]] onboard, placing The Skeleton King as happening around the same time as The New Crew, beginning before it and ending after it.
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* Virgo dies in [[The Skeleton King]] and the premise of [[The Grand Paladin Order]] is that [[Virgo]] is dead and a new grand paladin must take over.
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* In [[Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator]], [[Galen Sunsword]] already has a Sin of the Unforgotten. [[Gwyneth Sunsword]] is already Grand Paladin. Therefore, Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator takes place after [[The Grand Paladin Order]].
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===Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (3) ===
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Timeline:
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#[[Lyn Azveltara Gaiden]]
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#[[Azveltara Z]]
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#[[The Last Beenu]]
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#[[The Skeleton King]]
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#[[The Grand Paladin Order]]
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#[[Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator]]
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* In [[Azveltara Z]], [[Lyn Azveltara]] has already become a master assassin. Therefore, [[Lyn Azveltara Gaiden]] must predate [[Azveltara Z]].
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* In [[The Last Beenu]], [[Lyn Azveltara]] and [[Bei Mei X'hirt]] separate. [[Norokoh X'hirt]] has already been born. [[Bei Mei X'hirt]] dies. Therefore, [[The Last Beenu]] must take place after [[Azveltara Z]].
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*In [[The Skeleton King]], [[Norokoh X'hirt]] becomes a halfwit and and has already had their face mutiliated. Therefore, [[The Skeleton King]] must take place after [[The Last Beenu]].
 
* Virgo dies in [[The Skeleton King]] and the premise of [[The Grand Paladin Order]] is that [[Virgo]] is dead and a new grand paladin must take over.
 
* Virgo dies in [[The Skeleton King]] and the premise of [[The Grand Paladin Order]] is that [[Virgo]] is dead and a new grand paladin must take over.
 
* In [[Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator]], [[Galen Sunsword]] already has a Sin of the Unforgotten. [[Gwyneth Sunsword]] is already Grand Paladin. Therefore, Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator takes place after [[The Grand Paladin Order]].
 
* In [[Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator]], [[Galen Sunsword]] already has a Sin of the Unforgotten. [[Gwyneth Sunsword]] is already Grand Paladin. Therefore, Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator takes place after [[The Grand Paladin Order]].

Revision as of 19:05, 12 May 2018

Rob, I want to use an interrupt. Warning! The following page contains spoilers for the most recent campaign! Oh no!


The Timeline of URealms Live is constantly changing as new campaigns create connections between stories. The following is the confirmed canon timeline of the series so far.

There are four rules to this timeline that, if broken, would completely destroy the timeline:

  1. Every character is exactly who we think they are. No characters are actually another character in disguise, and no characters are mistaken for a different character of the same name. This also applies to recurring locations and objects.
  2. No character is a Believer or Ageless who is not already known to be so.
  3. No character had their mind toyed with to alter their memories and character arc.
  4. No character has used time travel or has been resurrected to appear before or after a significant event in their character arc. (Most significantly, their death)

As such, for the purpose of the timeline actually being a worthwhile endeavour it is assumed that by default every character is who we think they are and has not had their mind toyed with in any way. These rules are applied to every connection made between campaigns as long as there is not a reason to believe otherwise. (For example, the Believer rule does not apply to Nisovin because there is valid reason to believe that any Nisovin appearance may actually be a believer.)

Contents

Canon Confirmed Timeline With Explanations

Every timeline is predated by Acts 2 and 3 of The Senate of Deadlantis, as they respectively take place immediately before and immediately after the Birth of Magic, and every other campaign takes place after the Birth of Magic.

Sunswords to The Purge (1)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Sunswords to The Purge (2)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. The Jewel of the Dingo Isles
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge


Explanation:

Sunswords to The Purge (3)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The Silvermine Mountains
  4. Woodcarvers
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Sunswords to The Purge (4)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Senate of Deadlantis Acts 1 and 4
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Sunswords to The Purge (5)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. The Jewel of the Dingo Isles
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Senate of Deadlantis Acts 1 and 4
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Sunswords to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (1)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Explanation:

Sunswords to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (2)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. The Jewel of the Dingo Isles
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator


Explanation:

Sunswords to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (3)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The Silvermine Mountains
  4. Woodcarvers
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Explanation:

Sunswords to Den of Devils (1)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. The Zarlin Catacombs
  3. Unexpected Discovery
  4. Den of Devils

Explanation:

Sunswords to Den of Devils (2)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The Silvermine Mountains
  4. Woodcarvers
  5. Den of Devils

Explanation:

Sunswords to Sandbolds (1)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Sandbolds Acts 1-5

Explanation:

  • In The Sunswords, Phineas has yet to join Theta Squad or become a master Cabalist. He is still in training and knows no Cabalist skills. In Porc Hunters, Phineas has become all of this and joins Theta Squad. This confirms that Sunswords predates Porc Hunters. The time between the two campaigns is likely very short, as Phineas is a prepubescent child in both and in Sunswords he has already been referred to as a young adult so he is likely around 10 to 12 in human years.
  • In The New Crew, Phineas joins the crew. This time, he has his Cabalist powers and has begun to go insane from repeatedly using Blanket of Darkness on himself. Because of this, we know that The New Crew must take place after Porc Hunters.
  • In The Skeleton King, an illusory messenger of Maelstrom says he's about to join a New Crew, and some time after, Bopen's crew runs into Virgo Sunsword's ship with Merci's crew in the hull of the ship and Phineas Barringster onboard, placing The Skeleton King as happening around the same time as The New Crew, beginning before it and ending after it.
  • In The Sandbolds, the Kobold Children have already been kidnapped. Therefore, The Sandbolds Act 1 must take place after The Skeleton King.

Sunswords to Sandbolds (2)

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. The Jewel of the Dingo Isles
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Sandbolds Acts 1-5


Explanation:

Sunswords to Okagnoma Guild Hall

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. The Blood Snake Queen
  3. Okagnoma Guild Hall

Explanation:

  • In Okagnoma Guild Hall, multiple characters reference Dave's book, Boyfriend Quest. As it was still being written in The Sunswords, Okagnoma Guild Hall must come after that.
  • In Okagnoma Guild Hall, a few moments after the group of students teleport into the cave, the mercenary group from The Blood Snake Queen commences their tower manoeuvre, ultimately failing before they retreat. With this information, we know that the third encounter of Okagnoma Guild Hall happens during the final encounter of The Blood Snake Queen.

Sunswords to Buckeroos

Timeline:

  1. The Sunswords
  2. Porc Hunters
  3. Murder Bros
  4. Buckeroos

Explanation:

  • In The Sunswords, Phineas has yet to join Theta Squad or become a master Cabalist. He is still in training and knows no Cabalist skills. In Porc Hunters, Phineas has become all of this and joins Theta Squad. This confirms that Sunswords predates Porc Hunters. The time between the two campaigns is likely only a few months or years as Phineas is a prepubescent child in both and in Sunswords he has already been referred to as a young adult so he is likely around 10 to 12 in human years.
  • In Murder Bros, Dave is killed while taking Chimera to the Silvermine Mountains, placing the campaign after his appearance in Porc Hunters and before the destruction of the Silvermine Mountains in The Silvermine Mountains.
  • In Buckeroos, the town of Silverflats had already been rampaged through by the Murder Bros, and the train had already derailed, with the Murder Bros not far from the scene and Sallazar Thornblade referencing multiple events in the Murder Bros campaign, placing it a short amount of time after Murder Bros.

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to The Purge (1)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Silvermine Mountains
  4. Woodcarvers
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to The Purge (2)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to The Purge (3)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Senate of Deadlantis Acts 1 and 4
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to The Purge (4)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Last Beenu
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to The Purge (5)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Last Beenu
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Senate of Deadlantis Acts 1 and 4
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Den of Devils (1)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Silvermine Mountains
  4. Woodcarvers
  5. Den of Devils

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Den of Devils (2)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Zarlin Catacombs
  4. Unexpected Discovery
  5. Den of Devils

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Den of Devils (3)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. The Tower of Ultimate Wizardry: Chapter One
  3. The Zarlin Catacombs
  4. Unexpected Discovery
  5. Den of Devils

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (1)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Silvermine Mountains
  4. Woodcarvers
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (2)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator (3)

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The Last Beenu
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to Sandbolds

Timeline:

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. Azveltara Z
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Sandbolds Acts 1-5

Explanation:

Lyn Azveltara Gaiden to The Cobblers

Timeline

  1. Lyn Azveltara Gaiden
  2. The Cobblers

Explanation:

Band of Thieves to Den of Devils

Timeline:

  1. Band of Thieves
  2. Den of Devils

Explanation:

Band of Thieves to Buckeroos

Timeline:

  1. Band of Thieves
  2. Murder Bros
  3. Buckeroos

Explanation:

Fall of Dundinborough to The Purge (1)

Timeline:

  1. The Fall of Dundinborough
  2. The Death of Virgo
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Fall of Dundinborough to The Purge (2)

Timeline:

  1. The Fall of Dundinborough
  2. The Death of Virgo
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Senate of Deadlantis Acts 1 and 4
  6. The Purge

Explanation:

Fall of Dundinborough to Sandbolds

Timeline:

  1. The Fall of Dundinborough
  2. The Death of Virgo
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Sandbolds Acts 1-5

Explanation:

Fall of Dundinborough to Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Timeline:

  1. The Fall of Dundinborough
  2. The Death of Virgo
  3. The New Crew
  4. The Skeleton King
  5. The Grand Paladin Order
  6. Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Explanation:

Battle of the Bards to Sandbolds

Timeline:

  1. Battle of the Bards
  2. The Sandbolds Acts 2-5

Explanation:

Kobold Headhunters to Sandbolds

Timeline:

  1. Kobold Headhunters
  2. The Sandbolds Acts 3-5

Explanation:

Guild of Explorers to Den of Devils

Timeline:

  1. Guild of Explorers
  2. Den of Devils

Explanation:

  • In the Guild of Explorers Duke Daring is setting off to find the Scrolls of the Sandbold. In Den of Devils it is referenced by himself and by Raynel that he failed this quest and never acquired the scrolls.

Redundant connections

The following connections can be made between campaigns, but have no impact on the timeline as there are campaigns that are confirmed to take place in between the campaigns being connected. This information may be useful in case any of the information listed above is retconned or proven wrong.

Unconnected campaigns

There is no information that definitively links The Unseen Rogues to any other campaign in the timeline other than Acts 2 and 3 of The Senate of Deadlantis.

Points of Interest

The following are things to keep in mind when changing the timeline or adding theories to the section below.

What is Canon?

What is Not Canon?

  • Anything said outside a campaign or Coe's Quest episode, by Rob, a player or otherwise
  • Information established through spoken dialogue between characters during a campaign
  • The Many Gobos of Pat
  • Conversations between players and Rob during Character Creation
  • Things that have been retconned (usually in a campaign immediately after they happen)
  • Lords of Minecraft
  • DvZ
  • Unforgotten Realms
  • Unforgotten Quest

Timeline Placement of Band of Thieves

  • The possibility of something happening is not the same as something happening. For example, K4 could have appeared in The Unseen Rogues instead of Squinks. However, he did not, and therefore his potential appearance has no bearing on canon.
  • Though it was at first teased that Porc Hunters might take place after Band of Thieves when it was mentioned that the Kobold that Dave was escorting was connected to a band of thieves that attacked the Sunswords, this was just to mislead the audience. The prisoner was actually Chimera, not Philhipé, and he was connected to the Murder Bros, not Yumi's band of thieves.

Timeline Placement of Kobold Headhunters

  • In the Silvermine Mountains campaign, Gwyneth Sunsword mentioned that the elves had done some work in Karazzim in the past. However, this comment has no real bearing on the timeline placement of Kobold Headhunters, and just means that the elves influenced the town at some point.
  • Since it's unclear how the Vampire Locket works, it's also unclear if Kobold Headhunters and Unseen Rogues happen at the same time or not.
    • In The Skeleton King, a vision shows Romulus leaving to find Neena Brando, implying that she is alive and possibly in the same time as Romulus. This may not mean that the campaigns happen simultaneously, but may instead mean that they happen within a short enough time of eachother that both characters are alive at the same time.

Pot Puppies

  • Pot puppies lives for around a year, this is canon [1], however there is the possibility that a pot puppy could eat dragon scales and therefore live longer. Additionally note that we do not know how long a year is in URealms and so we cannot use pot puppies to measure the aging of characters other than the number attached to their age.

Timeline Placement of Guild of Explorers

  • In Den of Devils, Raynel and Duke Daring mention how he failed to acquire the Scrolls of the Sandbolds, which is what he was planning to do in Guild of Explorers. One may argue that because this is a fact spoken by a character, it does not make it true. However, Duke Daring had the attribute Famous, which allows the Game Master and Players to make up stories about Duke Daring, and they become fact. Therefore, this can be used to prove that Guild of Explorers predates Den of Devils.

Timeline Placement of The Cobblers and The Death of Virgo

  • It has been previously stated on the timeline that: "In The Cobblers, Reginald Barringster III has his mind made blank by Borris Cobbler" This has been asserted to prove that The Cobblers is before The Death of Virgo with the logic that with his mind blank Reginald Barringster III could have his mind taken over by legion, resulting in him betraying the party in The Death of Virgo. However it is equally possible that his mind was already taken over by legion and that was cleared from his mind or even that his mind was never taken over by legion in the first place.

Timeline Placement of Silvermine Mountains and Senate of Deadlantis

Timeline Placement of The Purge and Galen Sunsword: Private Investigator

Characters appearing in multiple campaigns

Lieutenant Surge

  • The mace Lieutenant Surge, held by Ca-rell and Kinney Boots is not a one-of-a-kind weapon. It is merely a mace enchanted with lightning.

Dreamweaver Visions

  • In The Cobblers and The Skeleton King, Boris Cobbler and Are'ani have visions of the past and future. However, these visions are not canon. There are many ways in which the characters could be incorrectly interpreting the events of the vision or the characters within.

The Word of Rob

  • Not everything that Rob says is automatically the case for the timeline. If Rob asserts something to be the case, but when reason and logic is applied and it does not make sense, then it is not the case. Rob is only human, he can make mistakes. Case in point: The Cobblers and The Death of Virgo placement and this. Also the word of Rob is still under the rule that only things said in campaigns and Coe's Quest are canon.
  • One example of Word of Rob is this (rough) timeline shown in the Den of Devils Behind the Scenes video. While it gives players a generally good idea of what happens when, it has a few flaws, and isn't an official timeline.
  • While Word of Rob is generally considered non-canon, it can sometimes affect how canon is viewed. In one of Rob's Behind the Scenes videos, he mentioned that any time the players sing "Fuck the Kobolds", it has no bearing on the timeline placement, since it's just the go-to song that the players will sing as an in-joke without regard for the timeline. As such, it is generally not a good idea to use that song as proof for timeline placement.