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What evidence do he have that Silvermine Mountains happened after The New Crew?

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Toadslayer (Talkcontribs)

I was just looking through the evidence for the canon timeline, and I couldn't find anything about Silvermine Mountains being after The New Crew. So I was wondering, do we even have evidence that this is the case, or did it somehow jut slip through?

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B333 (Talkcontribs)

I don't think that there is any 100% clear evidence, but I'll see if I can make some sense of it. I'll be using some acronyms to make this easier to read (Porc Hunters=PH, Jewel of the Dingo Isles=DI, Sunswords=SS, New Crew=NC, Silvermine Mountains=SM).

Because of Phineas, we know that it goes SS–>PH–>NC. We know that it goes DI–>NC, and that it goes PH–>DI based on Phineas' age. We know that it goes SS–>PH–>SM, based on characters that die and events that occur (like Unter and Rufio being in the prison).

So from this, we have SS–>PH–>DI–>NC, and SS–>PH–>SM.

There aren't really any specific events that suggest that NC is before SM. The only things I can think of are that Maelstrom references that his brother is heading to the Silvermine Mountains, and after the crew is captured, it is said that they are going to be sent to the mountains. Obviously, since the prison is destroyed in SM, it makes sense that NC takes place before it, but it's possible that the news just hadn't reached any of these characters yet.

GentlemanTwain (Talkcontribs)

Another thing to keep in mind is that in the Campaign “The New Crew,” Phineas shares an interesting piece of lore that significantly cleans up our timeline. Pot Puppies at maximum, live only a year. Meaning that since McCoy’s dog is on his last leg (Pun intended) it has almost been a year since the events in Dingo Isles. And while we never see Anihlus The Living Death that Walks in The Silvermine Mountains, he is presumed to be healthy by things Kallark meant ions in passing about him. Meaning that between Sunswords and Silvermine, no more than a year has passed. Meaning we either have continuity error, or the skeletons raised the pot puppies for a while before McCoy stole them. Seeing how defensive the skeletons seemed to be of them in the final encounter of The Dingo Isles, the ladder seems more likely. So recap, SS->SM=less than a year. while DI->NC=a year at most. Upholding your continuity theory, albeit vastly shortening the span of time between campaigns.

B333 (Talkcontribs)

Right now this isn't strong enough evidence to say for sure, though. All we know is that Phineas thinks that Pot Puppies live for a year. It's possible that Phineas was lying, or misinformed, about the lifespan of Pot Puppies.

Rob (Talkcontribs)

I agree with B333. I don't think using the insane ramblings of Phineas should be used to prove time between campaigns. Phineas saying "Don't they live like a year a most?" isn't solid enough to establish if it's been 1 year, 3 years, 5 years, etc etc.

Toadslayer (Talkcontribs)

As much as I would like to agree that this can be dismissed as insane ramblings of Phineas, it wasn't Phineas who said this. It was Rob as the GM (proof: https://youtu.be/8uPUrRRqVoI?t=2m10s) and as far as I know that means it is canon for sure. As such I think Gentleman Twain must be right.

(Would have replied earlier, but for some reason I was getting errors whenever I tried)

Rob (Talkcontribs)

That makes it canon that Pot Puppies live around a year old, but means nothing for the timeline as we have no idea how long THESE pot puppies lived for. We have already introduced the fact that characters can extend their lifespans by consuming Dragon Scales.

I also want to point out that we have no idea how long a Day let alone a year. This world doesn't function on having a set in stone timeline for a purpose and it's to not have theories like this that force a timeline.

Pot Puppies living for a year is not solid enough to establish how long it's been since the previous campaign.

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